S4 E03 How Grace Changes Everything: An Insightful Conversation with Terry Virgo

In this warm conversation, I sit down with Terry Virgo — a man whose life and ministry have shaped countless others, including me. At 85, Terry embodies something increasingly rare: a joyful, humble, grace-soaked faith that has only grown richer with time.

What struck me most in this interview is Terry’s utter simplicity and freedom. He speaks with a lightness of spirit that comes from decades of learning to rest in God’s kindness rather than his own effort. As he shares his story, you hear the journey from striving to surrender, from pressure to peace — a journey I know many of us long to make. We explore grace not as a doctrine but as a lived reality — the kind that sets the captive free, rekindles joy, and releases us from the exhausting need to “get it right.” Terry reflects on identity, calling, leadership, ageing, and what it means to remain fruitful and full of courage in the later years of life. It is a conversation filled with wisdom, humour, and the kind of hope that looks beyond this world to something far greater. If you’re hungry for a faith that is lighter, freer, and more deeply rooted in grace… if you’re navigating complexity and longing for clarity and joy… or if you simply want to learn from a man who has walked faithfully with Jesus for over six decades — I think you’ll find this conversation both grounding and uplifting. My prayer is that it encourages you, as it encouraged me, to live the rest of your life in the light of eternity — with open hands, a confident heart, and a renewed sense that the best is still to come.

Terry’s original talks on God’s lavish grace are on his website here.

You can watch the conversation at the link above or listen on audio below.

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